Regardless of which side of the political aisle you may be on, right or left, Christians seem to have dodged a bullet by keeping Hillary Clinton out of the White House.  

Why?  Many reasons.  Her support for abortion being very near the top of the list.  On that topic, have you seen this video?  Absolutely stunning and sickening to any Christian.  Take a look at what she has the audacity to admit right out in the open:

But even setting that abomination aside, did you know Hillary is also into communing with dead spirits? Necromancy, as the Bible would call it!

It’s true.  Take a look at this video where Bill Clinton seemingly has a total lapse in judgment (hey, when has that ever happened to him?) and admits in front of cameras and a bank of microphones that his wife, Hillary, “communes with the long-dead Eleanor Roosevelt.”  Stunning.

Here’s a portion of what he had to say:

“I know that because, as all of you famously learned when I served as president, my wife, now the secretary of State, was known to commune with Eleanor on a regular basis,” he said. “And so she called me last night on her way home from Peru to remind me to say that. That Eleanor had talked to her and reminded her that I should say that.”

Here’s the full clip, watch:

And before anyone yells “Fake” or “Edited”, I direct you over to Snopes which declares this story “Mostly True”.  Not that I’m any big fan of Snopes, I think they are very left-leaning and tend to spin away most pro-Christian, pro-conservative stories.  So it’s all the more impressive when even Snopes looks at a story like this and says, “yeah, it’s mostly all accurate, not much to pick apart here, he said it!”

In particular, Snopes says of the event:

The video is real, and with the exception of spooky mood music, the clip has not been deceptively edited. The footage shows Clinton speaking at a dedication event for New York City’s Franklin D. Roosevelt Four Freedoms Park.

So, what are we as Christians to make of this?

#1, be thankful every day that this woman is not our current, sitting President!  Can you imagine?  Awful on so many levels.

#2, let’s take a quick look at what the Bible says on the topic.  And I’d like to ask my own question:  is there really something to all of this “communicating with the dead” stuff?  Or is it just hocus pocus and a waste of time?

Let’s start with Leviticus 19:31:

³¹ “‘Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them. I am the Lord your God.

In the ESV, it reads:

“Do not turn to mediums or necromancers; do not seek them out, and so make yourselves unclean by them: I am the Lord your God.

That’s a pretty clear command.  God, through the Bible, says stay away from them!  But why?  Because it’s all just hocus pocus?  A waste of time?  I don’t think so.  It seems to be a very real prohibition because there’s stuff going on that you don’t want to get involved with.  Even in this verse it says to stay away from mediums and necromancers because “you will be defiled by them.”  Very interesting!

Time and time again the Bible makes clear, there is a very real (but unseen) spirit world that is maybe even more real than the world that we see with our human eyes.

In the familiar Ephesians 6:12, it says:

¹² For our struggle is not against ^[a]flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forcesof wickedness in the heavenly places.

Perhaps the most famous and controversial story in the Bible on this topic is about King Saul, Samuel and the Witch of Endor (or Medium of Endor).  Do you know the story?  It has created one of the fiercest Bible debates out there.

The short summary of the story is that Samuel the Prophet had died.  King Saul was spiraling downhill and the touch of God that was once upon his life had departed.  Saul was about to lose another big battle in war, and with God departed from him, he decided he would try to summon Samuel from the dead to consult him.  Sound familiar Hillary?  In a funny twist of the story, King Saul himself had previously outlawed all mediums and witches from the land, so when he went to go consult with one, he had to disguise himself.  Of course the disguise didn’t last for long.  After tracking down the Witch of Endor, he orders her to “call up Samuel” from the dead so he can talk with him.  And remarkably, Samuel appears!  Or so the entity claims.

Here’s the story, from 1 Samuel 28:

³ Now Samuel was dead, and all Israel had mourned for him and buried him in his own town of Ramah. Saul had expelled the mediums and spiritists from the land.

⁴ The Philistines assembled and came and set up camp at Shunem, while Saul gathered all Israel and set up camp at Gilboa. ⁵ When Saul saw the Philistine army, he was afraid; terror filled his heart. ⁶ He inquired of the Lord, but the Lord did not answer him by dreams or Urim or prophets. ⁷ Saul then said to his attendants, “Find me a woman who is a medium, so I may go and inquire of her.”

“There is one in Endor,” they said.

⁸ So Saul disguised himself, putting on other clothes, and at night he and two men went to the woman. “Consult a spirit for me,” he said, “and bring up for me the one I name.”

⁹ But the woman said to him, “Surely you know what Saul has done. He has cut offthe mediums and spiritists from the land. Why have you set a trap for my life to bring about my death?”

¹⁰ Saul swore to her by the Lord, “As surely as the Lord lives, you will not be punished for this.”

¹¹ Then the woman asked, “Whom shall I bring up for you?”

“Bring up Samuel,” he said.

¹² When the woman saw Samuel, she cried out at the top of her voice and said to Saul, “Why have you deceived me? You are Saul!”

¹³ The king said to her, “Don’t be afraid. What do you see?”

The woman said, “I see a ghostly figure^[a] coming up out of the earth.”

¹⁴ “What does he look like?” he asked.

“An old man wearing a robe is coming up,” she said.

Then Saul knew it was Samuel, and he bowed down and prostrated himself with his face to the ground.

¹⁵ Samuel said to Saul, “Why have you disturbed me by bringing me up?”

“I am in great distress,” Saul said. “The Philistines are fighting against me, and God has departed from me. He no longer answers me, either by prophets or by dreams. So I have called on you to tell me what to do.”

¹⁶ Samuel said, “Why do you consult me, now that the Lord has departed from you and become your enemy? ¹⁷ The Lord has done what he predicted through me. The Lord has torn the kingdom out of your hands and given it to one of your neighbors—to David. ¹⁸ Because you did not obey the Lord or carry out his fierce wrath against the Amalekites, the Lord has done this to you today. ¹⁹ The Lord will deliver both Israel and you into the hands of the Philistines, and tomorrow you and your sons will be with me. The Lord will also give the army of Israel into the hands of the Philistines.”

²⁰ Immediately Saul fell full length on the ground, filled with fear because of Samuel’s words. His strength was gone, for he had eaten nothing all that day and all that night.

²¹ When the woman came to Saul and saw that he was greatly shaken, she said, “Look, your servant has obeyed you. I took my life in my hands and did what you told me to do. ²² Now please listen to your servant and let me give you some food so you may eat and have the strength to go on your way.”

²³ He refused and said, “I will not eat.”

But his men joined the woman in urging him, and he listened to them. He got up from the ground and sat on the couch.

²⁴ The woman had a fattened calf at the house, which she butchered at once. She took some flour, kneaded it and baked bread without yeast. ²⁵ Then she set it before Saul and his men, and they ate. That same night they got up and left.

There is a great debate out there among Biblical scholars about whether Saul really spoke to Samuel or not.  He spoke to someone or something!  The people who believe he spoke to Samuel say to just take the story at face value, it’s what the Bible says happened.

On the flip side, the people who say it was not Samuel say it was a demon spirit pretending to be Samuel.

They point to verses like Ecclesiastes 9:5-6 to say when you’re dead you know nothing and have no more business here on Earth:

For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, and they have no more reward, for the memory of them is forgotten. Their love and their hate and their envy have already perished, and forever they have no more share in all that is done under the sun.

They also point out that Samuel seems to have taken on a drastic change in personality.  He is rude and angry, not much like the Samuel we saw before.

And they point out, the Bible doesn’t say that what he was speaking was true, it just records it.  If it is a demon spirit talking, then it would make sense that the demon would be lying.  That’s what they do!  Steal, kill, destroy….their only job description.

They also point back to our starting verse in Leviticus.  The command is clear, don’t try to communicate with the dead or with spirits because you will be defiled by them.  Would Saul be defiled by the real Samuel?  Probably not.  But he would if he were getting trapped into speaking directly to a demon.

So as for us here at LivingGospel, we believe that Saul was speaking to a demon, as was Hillary Clinton when she thought she was communicating with Eleanor Roosevelt.  It was not Eleanor, Hillary.  But then again, I wonder if she knew that?  You have to wonder how people like the Clintons get their power and whether it’s given to them and other politicians from dark places?

What are your thoughts?  

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